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From nobody Tue Aug 10 18:03:43 2004
To: Jack Halpern <jack@kanji.org>
Cc: Jack Halpern <jhalpern@cc.win.or.jp>, Juergen Weigert <jw@suse.de>
Subject: can we include Jim Breen's KANJIDIC in SuSE Linux?
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From: Mike FABIAN <mfabian@suse.de>
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 20:36:12 +0200
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Dear Jack Halpern,

we would like to use Jim Breen's KANJIDIC dictionary in SuSE Linux and
would like to ask whether that is OK with you.

KANJIDIC contains lines like the following

$B0%(B 3025 U54c0 B8 C30 G8 S9 F1715 N304 V791 H2068 DK1310 L401 K1670 DO1249 MN3580 MP2.0997 E998 IN1675 DJ1804 DG327 P2-2-7 I2j7.4 Q0073.2 DR465 Yai1 Wae $B%"%$(B $B$"$o(B.$B$l(B $B$"$o(B.$B$l$`(B $B$+$J(B.$B$7$$(B {pathetic} {grief} {sorrow} {pathos} {pity} {sympathize}

which have the frequency-of-use ranking (here F1715) and the SKIP
code (here P2-2-7) from your Japanese-English Character Dictionary.

By the way, thank you very much for writing this wonderful dictionary,
I own a copy myself and it has proven to be very useful in studying
Japanese.

The documentation file of KANJIDIC (which will be included in a
EDICT/KANJIDIC package of course) says about the frequency and the
SKIP code entries:

> F<num> -- the frequency-of-use ranking.  At most one  per  line.  The 
> 2,135 most-used characters have a ranking; those characters that lack 
> this field are not ranked.  The frequency is a number from 1 to 2,135 
> that expresses the relative frequency of occurrence of a character in 
> modern  Japanese.  The  data  is based on statistics published by The 
> National Language Research Institute (Tokyo), interpreted and adapted 
> by Jack Halpern in a manner to make it useful  to  the  learner.  The 
> data  is  derived  from the New Japanese-English Character Dictionary 
> (Kenkyusha,   Tokyo  1990;   NTC,   Chicago  1993).   The  commercial 
> utilization  of  the  frequency numbers is prohibited without written 
> permission from Jack Halpern.  Use by individuals  and  small  groups 
> for  reference and research purposes is permitted,  on condition that 
> acknowledgment of the source and this notice are included.
>
> P<code>  --  the  SKIP  pattern  code.  The  <code>  is  of  the form 
> "P<num>-<num>-<num>".  The  System  of  Kanji  Indexing  by  Patterns 
> (SKIP)  is  a  scheme  for  the classification and rapid retrieval of 
> Chinese characters on the basis of  geometrical  patterns.  Developed 
> by  Jack  Halpern,  it  first  appeared  in  the New Japanese-English 
> Character Dictionary (Kenkyusha, Tokyo 1990;  NTC, Chicago 1993), and 
> is  being  used in a series of dictionaries and learning tools called 
> KIT  (Kanji  Integrated  Tools).  SKIP  is  protected  by  copyright, 
> copyleft  and patent laws.  The commercial utilization of SKIP in any 
> form is strictly forbidden without the  written  permission  of  Jack 
> Halpern,  the  copyright  holder  (jhalpern@cc.win.or.jp).  (A  brief 
> summary of the method is in Appendix C. See Appendix E. for some of
> the rules applied when counting strokes in some of the radicals.)

Would you be so kind to allow us to use Jim Breen's KANJIDIC including
these two fields?

Yours sincerely,

Mike

-- 
Mike FABIAN   <mfabian@suse.de>   http://www.suse.de/~mfabian
$B?gL2ITB-$O$$$$;E;v$NE($@!#(B

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From: Jack Halpern <jack@cjk.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:39:06 -0500
To: mfabian@suse.de
Cc: Juergen Weigert <jw@suse.de>
Subject: Re: can we include Jim Breen's KANJIDIC in SuSE Linux?
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Greetings

In message "can we include Jim Breen's KANJIDIC in SuSE Linux?",
Mike FABIAN wrote...
 >Dear Jack Halpern,
 
Thank you for your kind words on the dictionary, and you may use KANJIDIC
with our data in it. I would like to ask that you clearly display a copyright
notice with my name and our websites, somethikng like:

Copyrigth on frequency and SKIP data for owned by
Jack Halpern
The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc.
www.cjk.org, www.kanji.org
DO NOT USE REDISTRIBUTE WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION

Best of luck.

>we would like to use Jim Breen's KANJIDIC dictionary in SuSE Linux and
 >would like to ask whether that is OK with you.
 >
 >KANJIDIC contains lines like the following 
 >
 >$B0%(B 3025 U54c0 B8 C30 G8 S9 F1715 N304 V791 H2068 DK1310 L401 K1670 DO1249 MN3580 MP2.0997 E998 IN1675 DJ1804 
DG327 P2-2-7 I2j7.4 Q0073.2 DR465 Yai1 Wae $B%"%$(B $B$"$o(B.$B$l(B $B$"$o(B.$B$l$`(B $B$+$J(B.$B$7$$(B {pathetic} {grief} {sorrow} {pathos} {pity} 
{sympathize} 
 >
 >which have the frequency-of-use ranking (here F1715) and the SKIP
 >code (here P2-2-7) from your Japanese-English Character Dictionary.
 >
 >By the way, thank you very much for writing this wonderful dictionary,
 >I own a copy myself and it has proven to be very useful in studying
 >Japanese.
 >
 >The documentation file of KANJIDIC (which will be included in a
 >EDICT/KANJIDIC package of course) says about the frequency and the
 >SKIP code entries:
 >
 >> F<num> -- the frequency-of-use ranking.  At most one  per  line.  The 
 >> 2,135 most-used characters have a ranking; those characters that lack 
 >> this field are not ranked.  The frequency is a number from 1 to 2,135 
 >> that expresses the relative frequency of occurrence of a character in 
 >> modern  Japanese.  The  data  is based on statistics published by The 
 >> National Language Research Institute (Tokyo), interpreted and adapted 
 >> by Jack Halpern in a manner to make it useful  to  the  learner.  The 
 >> data  is  derived  from the New Japanese-English Character Dictionary 
 >> (Kenkyusha,   Tokyo  1990;   NTC,   Chicago  1993).   The  commercial 
 >> utilization  of  the  frequency numbers is prohibited without written 
 >> permission from Jack Halpern.  Use by individuals  and  small  groups 
 >> for  reference and research purposes is permitted,  on condition that 
 >> acknowledgment of the source and this notice are included.
 >>
 >> P<code>  --  the  SKIP  pattern  code.  The  <code>  is  of  the form 
 >> "P<num>-<num>-<num>".  The  System  of  Kanji  Indexing  by  Patterns 
 >> (SKIP)  is  a  scheme  for  the classification and rapid retrieval of 
 >> Chinese characters on the basis of  geometrical  patterns.  Developed 
 >> by  Jack  Halpern,  it  first  appeared  in  the New Japanese-English 
 >> Character Dictionary (Kenkyusha, Tokyo 1990;  NTC, Chicago 1993), and 
 >> is  being  used in a series of dictionaries and learning tools called 
 >> KIT  (Kanji  Integrated  Tools).  SKIP  is  protected  by  copyright, 
 >> copyleft  and patent laws.  The commercial utilization of SKIP in any 
 >> form is strictly forbidden without the  written  permission  of  Jack 
 >> Halpern,  the  copyright  holder  (jhalpern@cc.win.or.jp).  (A  brief 
 >> summary of the method is in Appendix C. See Appendix E. for some of
 >> the rules applied when counting strokes in some of the radicals.)
 >
 >Would you be so kind to allow us to use Jim Breen's KANJIDIC including
 >these two fields?
 >
 >Yours sincerely,
 >
 >      Mike
 >
 >-- 
 >Mike FABIAN   <mfabian@suse.de>   http://www.suse.de/~mfabian
 >$B?gL2ITB-$O$$$$;E;v$NE($@!#(B
 >

Regards, Jack Halpern
	President, The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc. 
        http://www.cjk.org Phone: +81-48-473-3508

From nobody Tue Aug 10 18:03:47 2004
To: Jack Halpern <jack@cjk.org>
Cc: Juergen Weigert <jw@suse.de>
Subject: Re: can we include Jim Breen's KANJIDIC in SuSE Linux?
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Jack Halpern <jack@cjk.org> $B$5$s$O=q$-$^$7$?(B:

> Greetings
>
> In message "can we include Jim Breen's KANJIDIC in SuSE Linux?",
> Mike FABIAN wrote...
>  >Dear Jack Halpern,
>  
> Thank you for your kind words on the dictionary, and you may use KANJIDIC
> with our data in it. I would like to ask that you clearly display a copyright
> notice with my name and our websites, somethikng like:
>
> Copyrigth on frequency and SKIP data for owned by
> Jack Halpern
> The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc.
> www.cjk.org, www.kanji.org
> DO NOT USE REDISTRIBUTE WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION
>
>
> Best of luck.

OK, thank you very much.

I have added a file COPYRIGHT-KANJIDIC-JACK-HALPERN with the following
contents to the documentation directory of EDICT:

mfabian@magellan:/usr/share/doc/packages/edict$ cat COPYRIGHT-KANJIDIC-JACK-HALPERN
(This file was added by SuSE).

The Copyright on frequency and SKIP data in KANJIDIC is owned by

Jack Halpern

The CJK Dictionary Institute, Inc.
www.cjk.org, www.kanji.org

DO NOT USE REDISTRIBUTE WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION

mfabian@magellan:/usr/share/doc/packages/edict$

The complete SuSE package containing EDICT, KANJIDIC and
some other EDICT-like dictionaries is here for your
reference:

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.1/noarch/edict-20040810-0.1.noarch.rpm
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/m17n/9.1/src/edict-20040810-0.1.src.rpm

Yours sincerely,

Mike

-- 
Mike FABIAN   <mfabian@suse.de>   http://www.suse.de/~mfabian
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